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16th YEAR OF ONLINE FAMILY HISTORY

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(Note: in Jan '08, I added approx. 18,000 Simon Hoyt/e, Haight, Hoit, and their relations
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* ON SHIP's THAT MAY LOOK SIMILAR TO A LYON'S WHELP

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For more information about the 10 Lyons Whelp's ships that were built, click link,.

http://homepages.which.net/~j.wassell/whelps.htm

John Wassell, says, "I do not claim that the picture you reproduce is of any Lions Whelp- only that it is contemporary and of similar size. Note that it bears the Royal arms on the stern, which merchant ships did not."

Also, John W. states in emails to me, "I am fairly certain that the Lions Whelp that sailed in 1629 was not one of the 10 Whelps built in 1628. It was either the earlier "Lions Whelp" I refer to in my article (link above), or a privately-owned merchant vessel of that name. If a ship owned by the State had been used it would have generated a lot of official paperwork relating to this use- and I am sure the settlers would have had to pay a higher rate to hire the ship including the crew's wages etc than for a privately-owned ship with no bureauocracy to satisfy.
Other problems-Whelps were each of about 186 tons burthen.
The State Papers record several Whelps as being under repair in late 1628 and 1629 after the rigours of the La Rochelle expedition in 1628.
No record of the voyage (so far as I am aware) notes that the Whelp was a King's Ship.

Another email from John W. reads:

John, I don't need a copy of the list as my interest in 17th C naval matters has been dormant for many years- current interest is local history, especially of the area in which I live.
8 guns on the 90-ton Lions Whelp seems credible, as do the guns noted for the bigger ships. The guns mounted would be of small size and I doubt if even the larger ships noted carried anything larger than a 6 pounder. They wouldn't have had enough room or crew for larger guns, unlike the remarkably heavily armed 10 Lions Whelps with up to 70 men and usually 14 guns of various sizes from Sakers (6 pdr) to two Demi-cannon (32pdrs, not always shipped due to the weight). I do not have any data on the armament of the earlier Lions Whelp I mention. Regards, John W

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These two drawings below, are probably the nearest available contemporary images (apart from the Royal Arms on the stern) of the appearance of the ship that sailed in 1629, that is to say three-masted and one gun deck?

In his book "The Wooden Fighting Ship" E.H.H. Archibald drew a reconstruction of the whelps- it is generally similar to the ship in Verwer's picture. Both show the quarter-deck and foc'sle deck linked by a light deck or series of gratings where the sweeps would have been stowed. The main function of this deck was to cover the gun deck to prevent an enemy boarding or falling spars etc. causing damage.